DGart09, the Titleist AP1 irons look good and they are quite solid. Also, all the comments I have heard are positive from golfers. Just be sure to get the correct shaft for you. Talk with your golf professional about this.
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We now have over 150 new iron additions to Maltby Playability Factor (MPF) since the original book was published in March 2005. The new MPF additions as well as the original MPF irons can be checked out soon at my website ralphmaltby.com. For the first time, the exact same MPF format used in the book (including photos) will be available. Also, every new MPF book that is sold will also include the new MPF irons in the included CD.
As we measure MPF (and a number of other measurements) for each new iron that comes onto the market, it is interesting to compare and evaluate who is doing what and possibly why they are doing it. Also, from measuring, we can easily pick up changes in design philosophy. For example, are they designing more toward improving MPF which utilizes clubhead mass and dimensional properties to improve playability or are they simply designing to the better players market (muscle back type irons) or both? Further, do they simply go along the way they have been going with similar playabilities among all their iron designs or do they come up with “me too” designs for the sake of keeping up with the latest in trends or hot selling ideas from other manufacturers?
During the last two years and particularly the 2006 year, many more irons are being designed into higher MPF categories. This is particularly true of some of the major OEM’s. We all know that Callaway has designed irons mostly in the Ultra Game Improvement category until they introduced the Phil Mickleson X-Tour which is in the much lower Conventional category. Their latest iron introductions are the X-20, X-20 Tour and the X Forged. The X-20 is Callaway all the way with a bore through and very short signature hosel. This iron is well into the Ultra Game Improvement category in points. Both the X-20 Tour and the X Forged have a more conventional hosel length and they are not the signature bore through hosel designs. These irons also have conventional ferrules to blend the hosel more traditionally into the shaft. The X-20 tour is in the Super Game Improvement category and the X Forged is one category down in Game Improvement. For me personally I really like the Fusion Wide Sole irons (Ultra Game Improvement and a whopping 1203 MPF points) introduced last year or so. Also, my next vote is for the new X-20 irons in Ultra Game Improvement and a very high 1051 points. Go out and hit all their new irons and you decide.
What is interesting is the new Ping Rapture which is the highest playability (MPF) ever for Ping iron at 914 points and in the Ultra Game Improvement category. Ping accomplished this high playability design with a good looking blade profile in the playing position. They made the #6 iron loft 30º which means no one will have any trouble getting it airborne and it will feel solid on off-center hits. This would also make an excellent ladies set of irons with the correct shaft. Customers purchasing this set of irons should have very favorable comments about its playability. I think it is the best Ping iron ever.
The new Ping S58 pleasantly surprised me with a 778 point rating landing it in the Super Game improvement category. I say surprised because it looks like a more traditional blade style. The #6 iron only has 28º loft but the .675” actual vertical center of gravity should really help to keep it solid on most hits even for the sweeper style swingers who do not hit down and through the ball.
Cleveland Golf has become another one of my favorites because they also have very solid designs in a broad player range. The new CG4 Tour is a good looking Game Improvement category design for the better player and the Launcher LP is in the Ultra Game Improvement category at 881 points. The Launcher LP will feel solid and be much easier to hit for any player, even if they are only moving up from the Game Improvement category. Cleveland is playing around in the stronger lofts department with the Launcher LP at 29º for the #6 iron while the CG4 remains at the normal 31º.
Unrelated Cleveland Golf side note: If a player only wants to buy a Cleveland sand wedge or only wants a conventional sole designed sand wedge (.750” to .850” sole width), I would strongly recommend the CG11. It’s not softness of feel as the advertising would suggest. It’s all in the sole design. The width of the sole is the same in the heel as it is in the middle of the face. This makes this wedge better from sand and also chipping and pitching (does not affect full shots much). The reason is that the sole will better resist digging in the heel area (chipping, pitching and sand shots) because the leading edge is the same height off the ground as it is in the middle of the sole. Definitely not what a tour player wants, but this wedge will really help the conventional sole width sand wedge player who may occasionally chunk one when chipping or pitching. In other words, for a conventional sole width sand wedge it has some forgiveness and will work with all player abilities. Also, don’t overlook the new 588 RS 60º sand wedge from Cleveland. This one will definitely help any golfer who needs to get out of a bunker easier and who also has a tendency to “chunk” the pitches or chips. The 60º is the only 588RS model available at this time but I am hoping Cleveland will bring out a 56º model 588RS.
Mizuno’s new models are mostly similar to their previous designs; but the new MX-19 (their game improvement series) makes it into the Super Game improvement category and looks good. All you die-hard Mizuno blade players should give this iron a try. It will feel better and more easily get the ball airborne, especially with its 31º normal loft #6 iron. You probably won’t switch to the MX-19 but at least you have something to think about. Tell your friends to make sure they hit this iron before buying. When measuring and evaluating Mizuno irons it becomes readily apparent that this company only demands the absolute highest quality in the manufacture of its irons.
Cobra is doing good things. The new King Cobra S9 is a 933 point iron in the Ultra Game Improvement category. It has a .701” actual vertical center of gravity but a stronger 28º loft on the #6 iron. I feel that .701” can support the stronger loft for most all golfer swing types and I would recommend this iron. The new King Cobra FP is a 641 point head which puts it in the Game Improvement category. The higher (higher than the S9 but still low overall) vertical center of gravity (.795”) hurt its MPF rating but it is still a good design with good playability. I personally like the S9, however.
TaylorMade recently introduced their three latest designs, the R7 TP, the R7 and the R7 Draw. The R7 and R7 TP fall into the game improvement category while the R7 Draw is in the lower Conventional playability category. All three irons have good looking shapes and are of very high quality. The R7 TP is designed for better players and just barely falls into the Game Improvement category with 552 points. It has 31º loft on the #6 iron which is a normal or common modern day loft specification. Good players who hit it consistently near the face center will probably like this iron and it does look very good in the playing position. The R7 is 632 points and also falls into the Game Improvement category. The actual vertical center of gravity is .755”. The R7 draw iron measured out to only 418 points MPF which places it very low in the Conventional playability category and also much lower than most irons designed today. It has a somewhat high actual vertical center of gravity at .812” coupled with a stronger 28º loft on the #6 iron. By intentionally placing as much weight as possible in the heel area, the horizontal center of gravity is dragged far back into the heel area thus shortening the “C” Dimension (distance from the center of gravity to the centerline of the hosel). The center of gravity is also located quite a distance toward the heel from the face center meaning that to obtain solid hits the ball must be struck away from the geometric face center and well into the heel area. This type of design (regardless of the manufacturer) and the draw bias marketing approach need further comments and comparisons to fully understand the implications to golfers who play with this type of iron design.
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DGart09, the Titleist AP1 irons look good and they are quite solid. Also, all the comments I have heard are positive from golfers. Just be sure to get the correct shaft for you. Talk with your golf professional about this.
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Mr. Maltby,
I am in the market for new clubs and am really starting to look at the Titleist AP1’s. I talked to my club professional and he highly recommends those clubs. Before I buy them, I thought I might ask you what you might think. I was looking at the Cobra S9’s. Also, I am a 20 handicap, which is rapidly improving as I start to develop my own, solid, repeatable swing. What are your thoughts on the Titleist AP1’s? Are they worth the hype?
Thanks for your time,
Dan
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Lrobson, go to the forum subject “Redesigned AST Irons” and scroll down a ways for my answer on this. The AST hybrid iron is the one I modified to become the Hybrid ST irons. The new Hybrid ST’s have an MPF of 941 points, but this will go higher by probably 100 to 150 points in the latest modification.
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Ralph,
A few months ago, I built a set of KE4 irons along with a couple of Glider-X irons. I really enjoy both, but always have a lot of confidence hitting the Glider-X clubs.
I am very intrigued by the new Hybrid ST. With a MOI number beyond even the Recoil RDM heads and almost as low a VCOG as the Glider, it looks like the ultimate in playability.
I am very curious to know the MPF for the ST and would like to get any further insight you can share about the design and perhaps some of your impressions from the testing and development of this new head.
Cheers, Lee
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b***player, I heard Dr. Cook last speak on “taking your range game to the course”, excellent thoughts and ideas he had. I highly recommend his book to you, Golf’s Sacred Journey. Tom Lehman has some thoughts in there too. I have the same problems, but his See it, Feel it, and Trust it for those important 12 seconds has helped me, good luck!
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I’m in Ohio too, but it was in the 40s yesterday, so I actually played a quick 9 hole round. Played terribly, though… It will be a challenge to take my “range game” to the course.
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dkinaz, Callaway Fusions are a great iron and in the “Ultra Game Improvement category. If you get a chance, try the Fusion Wide Sole. It’s rather ugly like my Maltby Glider X irons but it is also very easy to hit. Your choice. I need to move to a warmer climate. Cheers from bleak, wintery, no sun and cold Ohio.
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Thanks a bunch Ralph! Agree with you again. Going from i5’s, would Fusions(not new ones) be right up there with X20’s and Raptures in forgiveness and playability? Love the site, glad I found it, hit em straight!
P.S. off tonight ot go listen to Aaron Badds and Jim Hardy, should be fun. Cheers from sunny AZ.
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dkinas, the MPF rating on the R7 is correct. The club has a shorter “C” Dimension than the others and this keeps the number down a little. The R7’s have a stronger loft than the others you are thinking about. It’s loft for a #5 iron is 25 degrees. I like the Ping Raptures and the Callaway X-20’s the best. You may have had a shaft in the TaylorMades that really worked well for you. This is also a big factor in trying out different irons. I have hit the R7’s and I also hit them quite well. I could easily play with this iron. At the time I was comparing hitting the R7 draw in comparison to the R7. No contest, I could not hit the draw solid. The draw has the center of gravity well back into the heel area making middle of the face impacts less solid.
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Love and new to the site. Question if I may? Currently hit i5s to a 5 index but since I don’t have tome to practice, I’d like something a little more forgiving and your site is great for that! I’ve hit and liked Ping Raptures, Cally X20, Cally Fusions, & TM R7. Is the low 632 rating for R7’s correct? They are a large forgiving head and performed same or better than higher rated X20 & Fusions to me in the forgiveness range. The R7 was deffinately easier to hit than my 707 rated i5’s? Any help would be appreciated before I make a change.