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JimHarrington 151 October 12, 2023 0 Comments

I chose the mallet version because I like a balanced face. Built up with the same bent steel shaft/length as my old putter — a polymer-faced Never Compromise mallet — and same grip. The old putter is corroded and does not seem to have enough loft.

Really like how the PTM-5 rolls the ball but there is a big problem. I can’t get used to it. Can’t make a consistent smooth stroke. Old putter weighs in at D-5, which is closed to where I play my wedges, but the PTM-5 is a colossal F-2 !!!!

I can’t imagine that a butt weight, even with a graphite shaft/hosel adapter, is going to fix this problem, but maybe I am wrong. Is there any way to get both the static weight and swing weight close so that I have the same feel? I love the milling, simplistic look, loft, and materials of the PTM-5. Just wish that it was made a little smaller and with perhaps a thinner face.

It’s ironic. Over the years the easiest club to build has also been the hardest to fit. OEM price markup is high for putters of the same quality.

Britt Lindsey Answered question October 13, 2023

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Answer 1 · 2023-10-13T17:39:42+00:00

First, putter swing weight and the swing weight of your wedges are really not related mainly because putters are such a specialty build for each individual and putter head weights and club lengths are not designed to be in a progression with irons. Never really heard of anyone matching a swing weight of a putter to their irons. A swing weight number is good reference on a putter to gauge head feel and can be used to compare to other putters, for sure. Swing weight is based on weight of the components and the length of the club. I assume the PTM-5 is the same length as your Never Compromise? I don’t know exactly what NC putter you have but more importantly I do not know the head weight. Our PTM-5 is 375 grams, which is a little heavier than what I would consider a standard weight of around 350-360 grams in putters today. Older putters use to have a standard weight of around 325 grams or less. I think part of the reason todays putters do come with heavier head weights is that many of the newer putter grips are heavier and a few grams more in the head are needed to maintain a good head feel. Also, there are still some longer length putter set ups that players are using. In addition, it has been proven that heavier overall weight putters do produce a more consistent stroke with the club head staying on path more than lighter weight putters.

All that being said, on putters especially (in my opinion), you have to like what your looking at and you have to like the overall feel. If the size and face height are not what you like, it doesn’t matter what head weight or the overall feel is. If it’s more the overall feel, you could try using a counterbalanced grip like one of the Super Stroke with the Counter Core weighting option and try different weights to see if you can dial in the feel. You are correct in that I don’t think you can counterbalance enough to get to a D5 swing weight if that is your absolute target. If it is, you will have to find a lighter head weight, and/or a shorter playing length, different shaft and grip weights …. some combination of these things to get to a D5 on your putter.

Britt Lindsey

Lengths are very close — just under 35 inches. The newer, heavier club is in fact slightly shorter. Lamkin Deep-Etched on both clubs, a wonderful choice to fit a reverse-overlap grip.

I never tried to match my putter swing weight to my wedges. It just worked out that way years ago when putters were lighter. Over the years my stroke became accustomed to that swing weight, but the head is in need of replacement.

I understand the trend towards length and big, long, fat grips. Like deep cavity back irons, I tried the industry trends but could not adapt.

Can’t say I agree with the studies on weight, at least not for me. The heavier putter will have more feel, but it will also be harder to control. Requires a shorter/slower stroke.

I think you have an extremely nice product, just not the best fit for someone like me. If it were possible to start with 300 grams and then incrementally weight up to 400 using weight screws, that would be ideal. One head with different hosel adapters could serve putters of different lengths.

Just a few things that would be nice in an elegant head design:

+. Satin black to prevent glare.
+. One full length sight line in white.
+ Flat rear for ease in picking up the ball.

Anything more tends to be a little gimmicky.